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Sunday, December 01, 2024

A Customizable Personalized Sikh History - Vegetarian or Meat-Eating Satgurus? By James Bean


A Customizable Personalized Sikh History - Vegetarian or Meat-Eating Satgurus? By James Bean




Image Credit: "Shiva's Support is Sarbloh":

https://manglacharan.com/Sarbloh+Guru+Granth+Sahib/Shiva's+Support+is+Sarbloh

 

A History-based Middle Ground of Sikh Vegetarian History

 

In the Beas publication about the life and teachings of Guru Nanak there is cited a passage from a Muslim historian saying that Nanak abstained from animal food and enjoined against cruelty to animals: "Having prohibited his disciples to drink wine and eat pork, he (Nanak) himself abstained from eating flesh and ordered not to hurt any living being." (Mohsin Fani, Persian historian, Dabistan-e-Mazahib)

 

"The Dabestan-e Mazaheb (Persian: دبستان مذاهب) 'school of religions' is a Persian language work that examines and compares Abrahamic, Dharmic and other religions of the mid-17th century South Asia and the Middle East." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabestan-e_Mazaheb

 

Usually authorship of this book is attributed to Mohsin Fani, a scholar of comparative religion and who also was friends with the Sixth Sikh Guru Guru Hargobind. "Born around 1615 in Iran, Mohsin Fani was once migrated to India, for the study of the religions there, in the time of the sixth Sikh guru, Guru Hargobind Sahib with whom he had friendly relationships." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohsin_Fani

 

I found several volumes and translations of the Dabestan-e Mazaheb online including English editions. The one at Scribd seems fairly complete and nicer than some of the others so I downloaded it.

 

It does contain the passage that's found in the RSSB book about the teachings of Guru Nanak

https://scienceofthesoul.org/books-EN-007-0.html  but it's far more informative to cite the whole paragraph of material where the quote is found, bringing greater clarity to the question of vegetarianism and Sikhism from this early source that predates many texts that mainstream Sikhs rely upon. The English translation of this old edition is not ideal but clear enough. I've bracketed in the correct spellings of the various Sikh Gurus.

 

"Nanac [Guru Nanak] had a great number of disciples. He professed the unity of God, which is called the law of Muhammed, and believed the metempsychosis, or transmigration of the soul from one body to another. Having prohibited his disciples wine and to eat pork, he himself abstained from eating flesh and ordered not to hurt any living being. After him, this precept was neglected by his followers; but Arjun mal [Guru Arjan Dev], one of the substitutes of his faith [successors of Nanak], as soon as he found that it was wrong, renewed the prohibition to eat flesh, and said, 'This has not been approved by Nanac [Nanak].' Afterward, Hargovind [Guru Hargobind, 6th Sikh Guru], son of Arjunmal [Guru Arjan Dev, 5th Sikh Guru], eat flesh, and went to hunt, and his followers imitated his example." (THE DABISTAN OR SCHOOL OF MANNERS, TRANSLATED FROM THE ORIGINAL PERSIAN BY DAVID SHEA AND ANTHONY TROVER, page 285, section on the Nanak sect, 1901 edition)

 

The short passage from the above as quoted by Janak Raj Puri in the Beas publication does make for a good proof-text for the vegetarianism of Guru Nanak and his immediate disciples, but as we can see from the context of the whole paragraph, with this wider field of vision things aren't looking so good for Sikh vegetarianism after the time of Guru Nanak.

 

The Fifth Sikh Guru Arjan Dev rediscovered? this lost? prohibition about eating flesh once taught by Guru Nanak and revives the precept of vegetarianism during his day. But then, soon enough, it fell by the wayside again with even Arjan's own son Hargobind eating meat and going on hunting trips.

 

So the above-quoted short passage from the Dabistan-e-Mazahib about the vegetarianism of Guru Nanak initially sounded quite good in support of vegetarianism, but a wider view of the whole text portrays vegetarianism as being forgotten by Sikh Gurus number Two, Three, and Four. Guru Five brings vegetarianism back. And I should also include Guru Arjan Dev's Adi Granth scribe Bhai Gurdaas, as his collection of poetry verses or vaars called Vaaran Bhai Gurdas, also affirms vegetarianism. Bhai Gurdaas Ji said: "They eat meat by cutting throats, what will their own condition be?" (Vaar 24, Pauree 17)

 

And then, according to the very same Dabistan-e-Mazahib by Mohsin Fani, Arjan's own son Hargobind, Sikh Guru Number Six, ate meat, went on hunting trips, thus presenting the latter Sikh gurus as meat-eating sat gurus. No more mandated* vegetarianism in the sangats of the Sikhs after the time of the Fifth Sikh Guru and his scribe Bhai Gurdaas. 

 

* Not a precept all disciples must follow.

 

For a One Hundred Percent Vegetarian Version of Sikh History We Have the Namdharis

 

Now what's presented above represents a kind of middle path or middle ground on the question of vegetarianism and Sikhism. There is the smaller Sikh sub-sect called the Namdhari's that, in their timeline or version of reality, present all Ten Sikh Gurus as being staunch and adamant vegetarians, including Guru Gobind Singh. For instance in alternative Namdhari texts this is attributed to Guru Gobind Singh:

 

"One who does not steal, commit adultery, slander anyone, gamble, eat meat or drink wine will be liberated in this very life (i.e. Jeewan Mukt)". (Guru Gobind Singh, 10th Sikh Guru, Sudharam Marag Granth -- Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji’s “Updesh” to Bhai Daya Singh ji which is mentioned in “Sudharam Marag Granth”, and also found written in some old handwritten volumes of Sri Guru Granth Sahib): https://web.archive.org/web/20180329213659/http://www.info-sikh.com/PageM1.html   

 

“His Disciples, Soaked in The Bliss of Nam, gave up opium, hashish, poppy, liquor and various other intoxicants. They would not eat meat. They would not steal. They foreswore adultery and deception. They Practised Saintliness.” -- Sri Guru Panth Parkash): http://namdhari.faithweb.com/panthparkash.htm

 

If one reads those alternative Namdhari scriptures and histories, according to them there were no meat-eating satgurus going on hunting trips after all. That would be the one hundred percent vegetarian version of Sikh history.  

 

Meet the Meat-Eating Satgurus Going on Hunting Trips, A Carnivorous Version of Sikh History

 

If one wishes to customize their personal version of Sikh history in the pro-meat direction, this is easily accomplished as well, with many supporting scriptures at hand and much pro-meat lore about each of the Ten Sikh Gurus, even with a critical critique of Mohsin Fani's Dabistan-e-Mazahib, AND yet another Granth attributed to Guru Gobind Singh. This one's called the Sarbloh Granth or Sarabloh Granth, "a voluminous scripture, composed of more than 6,500 poetic stanzas. It is traditionally attributed as being the work of Guru Gobind Singh, the tenth Sikh guru." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbloh_Granth

 

Representing mainstream Sikhism we have, Dr. Ganda Singh, in his book of translation and commentary, Nanak Panthis or The Sikh and Sikhism of the 17th Century (Translated from Muhsin Fani's Dabistan-i-Mazahib, Sikh Digital Library, ਡਾ. ਗੰਡਾ ਸਿੰਘ) Edited With Notes By Ganda Singh, JOURNAL OF INDIAN HISTORY: https://archive.org/details/NanakPanthisOrTheSikhsAndSikhismOfThe17thCenturyDr.GandaSingh/page/n3/mode/2up?q=nanak

 

"The Dabistan-i-Mazahib, from which I have culled and translated the account of the Nanak-panthis, the followers of Guru Nanak, is generally acknowledged to be the work of Shaikh Mohsin Fani." (from the Introduction)

 

"I have been strictly literal in my rendering, with the result that not unoften the diction and idiom of the English language had  to be sacrificed to keep it as near the original as possible. For this I crave the readers’ indulgence. I have given my explanations of the doubtful points in footnotes, and, although some of them have grown disproportionately lengthy, I hope the discussions therein will not be found wholly uninteresting." (page 198)

 

He quotes the Dabistan-i-Mazahib and adds some footnotes/commentary:

 

"'Holding wine and pork unlawful, he abstained from animal food 6 and enjoined against cruelty to animals. After his death meat-eating became common among his disciples. And when Arjan Mai, who is one of the prophetic order of Nanak, found that evil, he prohibited people from meat-eating and said: “This practice is not in accordance with the wishes of Nanak.” 7 Eventually Hargobind, son of Arjan Mai, ate meat and hunted, and most of his disciples followed his practice.'

 

[footnote] 6. "Here Mohsin-Fani or his informant seems to have erred. There is nothing in the teachings of Guru Nanak to condemn the use of animal food. On the other hand we find him cooking a deer, which a disciple had presented to him at Kurukshetar during his visit to that place. When the Brahmans expressed their horror at his cooking of flesh on the occasion of a Solar Eclipse..."

 

[footnote] 7. "There is no such sentence traceable in the sayings of Guru Arjan in the Guru Granth Sahib."

https://archive.org/details/NanakPanthisOrTheSikhsAndSikhismOfThe17thCenturyDr.GandaSingh/page/n3/mode/2up?q=nanak

Dr. Ganda Singh is correct that the Adi Granth doesn't contain that passage from Guru Arjan Dev.  Mohsin-Fani didn't say it was from the Granth. Mohsin-Fani was friends with Hargobind, the Sixth Sikh Guru and son of Guru Arjan Dev. In other words he was there, was a contemporary, was not just relying upon the Granth. It would be absolutely wonderful to know the source for that particular citation. Indeed! Indeed!   

 

In his footnote # 6 Dr. Ganda Singh then goes on to quote a few standard Granth verses that are often used to call into question the legitimacy of vegetarianism. The same passages are used over and over and can be found here -- see key word search of "meat" in this topical edition of the Granth: https://archive.org/details/in.gov.ignca.1918/page/n263/mode/2up?q=meat

 

Dr. Ganda Singh mentions a story about Guru Nanak cooking a deer but doesn't actually share with the reader where he found this. No citation is given, just a mention of the story followed by the standard verses from the Granth used to bolster the position of mainstream Sikhism in opposition to vegetarianism. However, I am acquainted with that particular deer meat story, where it's located!

 

It's interesting to notice that Dr. Ganda Singh here has attempted to refute the vegetarianism of Guru Nanak as recorded in a mid-17th century history book by the Persian scholar Mohsin Fani, a contemporary and friend of the Sixth Sikh Guru, by calling upon a hagiographical collection of apocryphal verses composed at a later date long after the time of the Tenth Sikh Guru Gobind Singh mainly used by the Nihang sect. (Usually historians give more weight to earlier texts over later ones, and neutral ones over self-serving sectarian ones.) This collection of stories about the Sikh Gurus, including about Guru Nanak eating deer meat, are attributed to Gobind Singh in a collection of writings known as the Sarbloh Granth. Most don't believe the Sarbloh Granth to really represent the compositions of Gobind Singh. "It is traditionally attributed as being the work of Guru Gobind Singh, the tenth Sikh guru. Scholars, on the other hand, attribute the work to after the Guru's death, being authored by an unknown poet. The work is mostly revered by the Nihang sect." -- Sarbloh Granth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbloh_Granth

 

Life and Sikhism according to the Nihang sect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihang

 

Rare Selections in English of the Sarbloh Granth Online: https://manglacharan.com/Sarbloh+Guru+Granth+Sahib/Sarbloh

 

"The Sarbloh Granth is a text associated with Guru Gobind Singh - which has not been translated into English. This website holds the only repository of translations of the Sarbloh Granth."

 

Guru Nanak As Meat-Eating Satguru? Guru Nanak and Meat

 

"When Guru Nanak visited Kurukshetra he cooked deer meat which attracted the attention of the local Pandits who questioned the Guru's actions. In a reply the Guru mentioned that this is the Dharam of a warrior, to which the Pandits replied: ⁣

ਸੁਨਿ ਕਰਿ ਬੋਲੇ ਪੰਡਿਤ ਸਭਿ ਹੀ । 'ਖਤ੍ਰੀ ਨਿਕਟ ਸਸਤ੍ਰ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਸਦ ਹੀ । 30। ⁣

ਤੁਮਨੇ ਬੇਖ ਫਕੀਰੀ ਲੀਨੋ । ਬਿਨਾ ਸਸਤ੍ਰ ਕਿਉਂ ਛਤ੍ਰੀ ਚੀਨੋ । ⁣

"The Pandit then said, "Warriors always have weapons with them, you have adorned the garb of an ascetic. Without weapons how can I recognize you as a warrior?"⁣

ਗੁਰੂ ਕਹੈਂ ਆਯੁਧ ਹਮ ਪਾਸੂ । ਉਚਰਹਿਂ ਨਾਮ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਮੈਂ ਤਾਸੂ । 31। ⁣

ਤੀਛਨ ਖੜਗ ਨਾਮ ਕਰਤਾਰਾ । ਸਤਿਸੰਗਤਿ ਹਿਤ ਧਨੁਖ ਸੁ ਭਾਰਾ । ⁣

"Guru Nanak said, "I do have weapons with me - the recitation of the name of the Creator Kartar is my sharp sword. The large bow that I have is the True Congregation Satsangat. ⁣

ਸਮ ਦਮ ਆਦਿਕ ਬਾਣ ਬਿਸਾਲਾ । ਮ੍ਰਿਗ ਰੂਪੀ ਮਨ ਹਤਿ ਤਤਕਾਲਾ । 32। ⁣

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਅਗਨਿ ਮਹਿਂ ਹੋਮ ਸੋ ਕਰਿ ਹੀ । ਨਿਤਾਪ੍ਰਤਿ ਐਸੇ ਹਿਤ ਧਰਿ ਹੀਂ । ⁣

"The practice of controlling the senses are the numerous arrows, and I use all of them to quickly kill the Deer-like-mind. In the fire like awareness of Braham the All-pervasive I cook this meat in an offering hom*. This is forever my mindset. ⁣

 

* as in homage 

"Gurpratap Suraj Prakash Granth 1843, author: the Great Poet Santokh Singh ⁣

Nanak Prakash Utararadh Chapter 7."

https://manglacharan.com/1843+Suraj+Prakash/Guru+Nanak+and+Meat

 

Suraj Prakash "published in 1843": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suraj_Prakash

 

For those desirous of customizing their Sikh history in a pro-meat direction, the Sarbloh Granth and other related writings of the Nihang sect will not disappoint. Do a few key word searches of "meat" at the Manglacharan Sarbloh Granth website and you'll find lots of stories about all ten Sikh gurus being meat-eating satgurus.

 

Final Thoughts, My Conclusions About This Particular Hall of Mirrors History 

 

Out of all these versions of Sikh history the Namdhari one seems the most pleasant. Being vegan, my personal preference or confirmation bias would be to have all ten Sikh gurus portrayed as lacto-vegetarians if not "level five vegans" (Simpson's reference). Unfortunately, the claims of the Namdharis fall short. An ethereal, visionary or ghostly apparition of Gobind Singh in the year 1812 appointing Balak Singh as the 11th Guru is a rather strange fictitious tale, making the Namdharis not exactly a reliable go-to source on matters of Sikh history.


Guru Gobind Singh would have been one hundred and forty six years old in the year 1812. A Wiki Entry for Guru Balak Singh, Founder of the Namdhari Sikh Sect:  

"Namdhari Sikhs believe he was the successor of Guru Gobind Singh, a stance that differs them from mainstream Sikhism.  According to Namdharis, Guru Gobind Singh did not die from the wounds inflicted by the assassination attempt on his life in 1708, but instead lived-on as a recluse under the pseudonym of "Ajapal Singh", passing on the guruship to Balak Singh before his death. Namdharis believe Guru Gobind Singh lived to the ripe-old age of 146 when he died in the year 1812, long enough to be contemporary with Namdhari Guru Balak Singh and pass on the Guruship to him."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satguru_Balak_Singh#cite_note-14

 

The extra-meatiness and sword collecting of the Nihangs seem to represent a later, much different version of Sikhism attempting to rewrite Sikh history, to remake it after their own image, doctrines, dogmas, and diet.

 

Mainstream orthodox Sikhism's deliberate ignoring of pro-vegetarian passages that are to be found in the Adi Granth, also in the Vaaran Bhai Gurdas, and references by historians such as Shaikh Mohsin Fani, have a familiar religious ring. If one needs to turn a blind eye, to be in denial or ignore something, that something is probably worth exploring.


See, Sikh And You Will Find: The Vegetarian Diet, Sikh Gurus and Scriptures, A Collection of Passages: 

https://santmatradhasoami.blogspot.com/2019/01/sikh-and-you-will-find-vegetarian-diet.html

 

I do suspect the 'middle path' account of Shaikh Mohsin Fani, author of the Dabestan-e Mazaheb (Dabistan-i-Mazahib) is likely to be closest to the truth on the question of vegetarian ethics and Sikhism.

 
 
The latter five Sikh gurus seem quite distant and different from the earlier Five, and from Sant tradition generally, which requires adherence to a vegetarian diet and a meditation practice that includes Surat Shabd Yoga. The execution of Guru Arjan Dev in 1606 brought to an end the lineage of Sikh gurus that were Sants, as some have already suggested. I believe they are correct and now have joined their ranks as sharing that point of view myself. With the death of Guru Arjan Dev, from that point forward we get "meat-eating satgurus" who "went on hunting trips". And the poetry of the Dasam Granth and other later collections of spiritual poetry are for the most part not compatible with, or of the same vibe, depth or spirit as, that of the compositions of anyone we would conceive of as a Sant such as Paltu Sahib, Dariya Sahib, Tulsi Sahib, Charan Das, Sahjo Bai, Guru Nanak, etc...  (Most Sikhs also don't put the Dasam Granth on the same level as the Adi Granth.) 
 
One can even read the writings of Sant Dariya of Bihar as expressing criticisms of Sikhism:
 
"Likewise, when the beheaded goat is brought to your house,
Your children are all excited with joy.
You give little pieces to your children
And eat away the rest of the meat yourself."
 
"As long as the discipline of the Sound Current is preserved unadulterated,
The line of succession will truly continue.
But when it is mixed with outer rituals and display of external garbs,
My Sound Current will part company.
My divine essence will depart
And souls will go into the mouth of Kal." 
 
 
"External garbs"...like the Khalsa dress code: baggy shorts, a sword, a wooden comb, an iron bracelet, and unshorn hair? 
 
 
It was so nice to find in English the old history of the Sikhs according to Mohsin Fani. What he was saying about Nanak and Guru Arjan Dev being the main enforcers of vegetarianism, mandating vegetarianism as a universal precept for all Sikhs, perfectly aligns with the contents of the Adi Granth. Years ago I compiled a collection of vegetarian verses of the Granth. Those also happen to be from Guru Nanak and Arjan Dev! Also there's one from Arjan's scribe Bhai Gurdaas (in his collection of verses known as the Bhai Gurdas Vaaran), and the Granth has pro-veg verses from Kabir. 
 
 
Perhaps one of those other guru lineages branching off one of the earlier Sikh gurus fared better at preserving the teachings of Guru Nanak. Hard to say. That might be good to explore, if there's any substantial information about those other sects available, such as the Nanak Panthis.

 

Note: The account in the Dabistan-i-Mazahib states: "After him [Nanak], this precept was neglected by his followers; but Arjun mal [Guru Arjan Dev], one of the substitutes of his faith [successors of Nanak], as soon as he found that it was wrong, renewed the prohibition to eat flesh, and said, 'This has not been approved by Nanac [Nanak].'" And history repeats. Others in Sikhism would do the same and adopt a vegetarian diet. There's always been a minority of Sikhs who have been vegetarian. No doubt much more could be said; more texts from various Sikh sects could be cited. Vegetarianism @ Sikh Wiki: https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Vegetarianism

 

Video: The Wise Guru Nanak: Passage from Sarbloh Granth:

https://youtu.be/-aF_MOZoOPI?si=pBu2Rq_lKzBh_sJJ

 






Sunday, September 22, 2024

The Karmic Law of the Vegetarian Diet, by Huzur Baba Sawan Singh

 

The Karmic Law of the Vegetarian Diet, by Huzur Baba Sawan Singh





Sawan Singh: “I must point out that animal food, even if a single particle is eaten, is detrimental to spiritual progress.” (Spiritual Gems, Letter 21)


“A human being cannot comprehend the existence of God and His creation until he has succeeded in getting his soul free from the bondage of the five Tattwas, the twenty-five Prakritis, the three Gunas, Maya and Mind — all of which are enveloping it here — until he has emancipated his soul from every one of these errors and taken it beyond the sphere of mind and intellect, and opened his internal vision. Only then is the soul able to know itself and understand what it is made of.


“After that, it becomes fit to seek its Creator and to find out the ocean from which it originally descended, as well as the means to regain it. Consequently, before a disciple has succeeded in getting rid of these chains, it shall be sufficient for him to know that this world can be divided into two parts, land and water.


“The creatures of water live upon each other. Nature has not provided them with any other means of subsistence. Big fish are eating the little ones, etc. The same holds true of the land. Lions and tigers eat up wolves and jackals. The latter subsist on the meat of sheep, goats, etc. They, in turn, eat plants. Hawks eat smaller birds. Birds eat insects, and men eat most every form of life, so far as climate and special circumstances of their own countries permit.


“Every grain, every plant, has life in it. Hindu philosophy has acknowledged this fact since very ancient times. Dr. Bose has demonstrated this fact to the European world by his experiments, showing that plants feel and breathe, and have souls. If a ray of light is allowed to penetrate a dark room, the microscope reveals numberless germs floating in the air of that room. The whole room seems to be full of this germ life. When we breathe, these tiny creatures go inside of us and die. When we walk, numberless creatures are killed by contact with us, and countless others are crushed beneath our feet. The same is true when we drink water. The microscope reveals myriads of tiny creatures in a tumbler of water; and these we drink to their death every day. Souls would appear to be literally packed together in all space in our world. If we put down a needle point on the earth, countless germs may be found beneath its point.


“And so, in our world, life is everywhere destroying life. In such a world where one creature is eating up another, it is impossible to expect either justice or peace of mind. (There is no rest or security anymore.) Therefore, when the ancient sages found that in this world creatures were destroying each other, they decided it was better to give up the world. They found that in such a world there could be no peace of mind, and it was impossible to attain bliss until and unless the soul breaks away from the bonds which have kept it enchained; and that it was folly to regard the pleasures of this world as a means to happiness, because they lead to hell and further bind the soul with Karma and dirt.


“They determined that it was impossible to find peace of mind in any worldly object, and that happiness lies within man himself and that ocean of which he is a drop. Therefore, the Sages thought, as long as they were confined in the prison of this world, they would adopt the course which was the least harmful; they would subsist on creatures the killing of which was the least sinful. They discovered that all living beings of this world could be divided into classes as regards the composition of their bodies and the number of elements they contain. By elements they did not mean the ninety or so elements discovered by modern scientists, but the main conditions or divisions of matter.


“There are five such classes of substances. According to their classification, under class one, came all of those creatures in whom all five of these substances are active, that is, man. In the next class came those in which only four substances are active and one dormant, and that is quadrupeds. In them there is no sense of discrimination, because in them the Akash Tattwa is dormant. In the third class fell creatures in which only three substances are active, namely air, water, and fire. They are birds. They lack earth and Akash. The fourth class is made up of insects, in which only two substances are active, air and fire. Then comes the last class, the fifth, in which only one element or substance is active, that is, the vegetable world. In them, water is the only active element. Experts have proved that, in many vegetables, there is as much as ninety-five percent water. When the creatures of the other four classes are killed or injured, they cry out in pain, but not so the vegetables, though they have life. So the Sages concluded that the eating of vegetables was the least sinful, (the least burdened with karma). Although the eating of vegetables produced some karma, yet it was of a light nature, which could be easily worked off by spiritual exercises. They thus chose the course of least resistance, and so abstained from the killing of other forms of life.


“The method of practice of the Sound Current is the only method by which to escape this jail into which we are born. This method is natural, and it was not designed by man. It is as old as the beginning of creation. The Creator is ONE, and therefore the Way to reach Him is ONE, and it is in the interior of every human being. It is incapable of alteration, modification, addition, or improvement. Man is to reach the ocean of his Origin by means of ascending the Sound Current, irrespective of any caste, creed, nationality, or sex. It is a practice for the awakening of powers within us. By slow degrees, our souls will emerge from the grave of the body or vacate it. In the body there are nine openings through which the soul communicates with this world, and these the soul learns to close and to fix its attention at the back of the eyes. Then it begins to traverse higher planes. When it attains Turya Pad (astral), it will acquire control over the mind, senses, lust, anger, avarice, attachment, and egotism. At present the soul is under the control of mind, which itself is under the control of the senses. When we gain the astral, after leaving the material, the soul gains control over the mind. When we get beyond the astral and the heavens and hells which are within the astral, all of these are left behind. The soul will then hold these in contempt, and then it will go to Brahm Lok, or the Causal plane, which contains Mukti, or Salvation planes.


“Brahm is also the servant of Par-Brahm. Therefore, leaving Brahm, the soul should go to the ParBrahm, where it will be freed from all its shackles. On reaching Par-Brahm, all the material, astral, and causative coverings of mind and matter that envelope the soul are removed. Then the soul is pure spirit. This is self-realization. Here there is no form, no cover, no shape, no youth nor old age — only the soul, shining in its pure radiance — a drop of existence, knowledge, and bliss, capable of comprehending the Great Ocean, its Creator. Now the drop tries to reach and mingle with the Ocean.


“So, it is here, in Par-Brahm, that one begins to realize the full significance of Sant Mat. Hence, the only medicine for all of our ailments is the practice of the Holy Sound together with the Master’s spiritual help and guidance. The Master is not a body only. He is the Power which guides and helps us at every stage and in every region during our inward spiritual journey. When we are in the physical body, He instructs us in His physical form. When we go inward to the Astral Planes, He is in the Astral Form, and, as we proceed further, He assumes the form of each region all the way up to Sach Khand (our true home).”


— Huzur Baba Sawan Singh — Published by Ruhani Satsang


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Thursday, May 02, 2024

Veg Saying of Jesus from Islam and the Gospel of Thomas


Veg Saying of Jesus from Islam





Christ said, “Flesh eating flesh? How offensive an act!” - The Muslim Jesus: Sayings and Stories in Islamic Literature, by Tarif Khalidi: 

https://archive.org/details/muslimjesussayin0000khal


The saying above reminds me of The Gospel of Thomas, Saying 112: Soul should be independent of flesh: Jesus said, “Woe to the flesh that depends upon a soul. Woe to the soul that depends upon flesh.” (The Gnostic Scriptures, Bentley Layton, David Brakke)


Because some Ebionite Christians held out longer in Arabia, that's probably why some in Islam had an awareness about Christian veg teachings.





Tuesday, November 07, 2023

Vegetarian Christianity: No Fishes With Their Loaves - Spiritual Awakening Radio Podcast

 


Vegetarian Christianity: No Fishes With Their Loaves - Spiritual Awakening Radio Podcast 





The earliest references to the story of Jesus Feeding the Five Thousand do not include any mentions of fish, only bread. The early church father Irenaeus, writing between 180 and 188 AD, does not say anything at all about the fish, only bread in connection with this Miraculous Feeding of the Multitude as if the gospels he was reading at the time didn't include anything about fishes with the loaves. The historian Eusebius, Arnobius, and several other early Christian writings also never include anything about "fishes" with the loaves, only the loaves, only the bread. It was originally an account about people being given bread. This has lead to some, including Keith Akers, author of the book, The Lost Religion of Jesus: Simple Living and Nonviolence in Early Christianity (also see his wonderful scholarly book, Disciples), to conclude that the making of this popular miracle story into a fish tale must have taken place sometime after Irenaeus and 188 AD. After that date must be when the final edit took place, when fish got added to the story about the Feeding of the Five Thousand, transforming it into the more familiar Sunday School version people are acquainted with. Today, we examine the case of the missing fish, as well as textual variations between different manuscripts of the New Testament, including the spectacular example of a vegetarian saying of Jesus present in the Old Syriac-Aramaic Evangelion Da-Mepharreshe manuscripts of the Gospel of Luke but not present in the Greek manuscripts. This is another installment in a series of podcasts documenting the vegetarianism of the original Jesus Movement, also known as the Ebionites, Nasoraeans, grandchildren of the Essenes, Hebrew Christians, The Apostles, the Disciples, Christianity-Before-Paul: the folks in the early church Paul was arguing with about diet, including James the Just of Jerusalem.


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Tuesday, January 08, 2019

Vegan and Vegetarian Ahimsa: Non-Violence in Thought, Word, and Deed, Including in the Area of Diet -- E Books




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Vegan and Vegetarian Ahimsa: Non-Violence in Thought, Word, and Deed, Including in the Area of Diet


E Books, Blogs, Websites, and Videos on the Wisdom of Following a Non-violent Vegetarian or Vegan Diet

Vegan Myths - Great Information and Introduction to Veganism:

Read for free online, The Lost Religion of Jesus: Simple Living and Nonviolence in Early Christianity, by Akers, Keith: 

Read for free online, The Vegetarianism of Jesus Christ, by Charles Paul Vaclavik:

American Vegan Society:


I believe, based on the current practices of the dairy industry in India and around the world, that classic Saints such as Guru Kabir, Guru Nanak, Tukarama, Ravidas, Tulsi Das, Namdev, Dariya Sahib, etc... if they were here today, would not only be advocating a vegetarian diet but a vegan diet. These days, many are making this transition, including in Sant Mat. This is the direction that the vegetarian movement is headed in. Vegetarianism is going vegan.

It’s hard to reach more subtle states of tranquility in meditation on an animal/flesh diet based on the suffering of other beings. “It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” (Jiddu Krishnamurti) In addition to the disability produced by living in an unaware, high violence culture that doesn’t see the problem with that, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are actual chemical influences in the meat that adversely effect meditation, along with the other health issues (growth hormones, antibiotics, cardiovascular decline, inflammation, carcinogens) that have been documented.

"All living creatures seek a life of peace,
So pass your days on this Earth humanely.
Even the heart that beats in an animal’s breast
Knows sympathy, brims with love.
So look on all living creatures with loving compassion –
bring to humanity’s night the light of dawn."

— Darshan Singh, from, Jadah-e Nur (Pathway of Light),
Love’s Last Madness, the new expanded edition, 2018

"I can say about flesh eating that the Spirit has shown me repeatedly that I could not refine my body and make it a harmonious instrument for the soul, so long as I continued to fill it with the cells of dead animals." -- Charles Fillmore, founder of the Unity School of Christianity    

''As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will always be battlefields.'' (Leo Tolstoy) 

“As long as man continues to be the ruthless destroyer of lower living beings he will never know health or peace. for as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love.” (Pythagoras)

“Men dig their graves with their own teeth, and die more by those instruments than by all weapons of their enemies." (Pythagoras, 582 B.C. vegetarian) The world will get caught up to 582 B.C. adopting the ahimsa values of sages like Pythagoras one of these days, hopefully soon. 

A Pythagorean saying quoted by several ancient sources: "A light, meatless diet sharpens one's spiritual perception, while a diet containing meat weighs the soul down." (quoted in, The Golden Verses of Pythagoras, Johan C. Thom, published by E.J. Brill)

Apollonius of Tyana, Pythagorean and Vegan: 

"If any say he is my disciple, then let him add, he keeps himself apart out of the Baths [decadent public baths I believe is the cultural reference there], he slays no living thing, eats of no flesh, is free from envy, malice, hatred, calumny, and hostile feelings, but has his name inscribed among the race of those who’ve won their freedom." (Apollonius of Tyana)

Orphic Communities: 

“If, however, someone should think it is unjust to destroy brutes, such a one should neither use milk, nor wool, nor sheep, nor honey. For as you injure a man by taking from him his garments, thus also, you injure a sheep by shearing it. . . . milk, likewise was not produced for you, but for the young of the animal that has it. The bee also collects honey as food for itself; which you, by taking away, administer to your own pleasure.” (Porphyry, a 3rd century AD Neo-Platonist philosopher, in, On Abstinence from Beings with a Soul)

The Laws of Manu, a Hindu scripture which is dated anywhere between 10,000 years ago in the 7900s BCE and 200CE depending on the scholar, states: “Meat cannot be obtained without injury to animals…He who does not eat meat becomes dear to men, and will not be tormented by diseases. There is no greater sinner than that man who seeks to increase the bulk of his own flesh by the flesh of other beings. … Thus having well considered the disgusting origin of meat and the cruelty of fettering and slaying of corporeal beings, let him entirely abstain from eating flesh.”


A Vegetarian Saying of Jesus

There’s a very old Syriac-Aramaic manuscript of the Gospel of Luke that even predates the Syriac Peshitta called Evangelion da-Mepharreshe. It contains some “textual variants”, differs from the Greek gospel manuscripts, and the now standardized, conformist approach used by most New Testament translators. There are two surviving editions of Evangelion da-Mepharreshe, the Curetonian Version of the Four Gospels as well as the Sinai Palimpsest, also known as The Old Syriac Gospels. Evangelion da-Mepharreshe represents a translation and “one of the earliest witnesses”* of an even older collection of gospel manuscripts that no longer exist but once were “in circulation between the second and the fifth centuries”*.

"Now beware in yourselves that your hearts do not become heavy with the eating of flesh and with the intoxication of wine and with the anxiety of the world, and that day come up upon you suddenly; for as a snare it will come upon all them that sit on the surface of the earth." -- Luke 21:34: https://archive.org/details/cu31924092359680/page/n417/mode/2up?view=theater

*Note: Page xviii, “Peshitta New Testament, The Antioch Bible English Translation”, Gorgias Press, discussion from the Preface about the history of the early Syriac-Aramaic manuscripts of the gospels.

“Probably the most interesting of the changes from the familiar New Testament accounts of Jesus comes in the Gospel of the Ebionites description of John the Baptist, who, evidently, like his successor Jesus, maintained a strictly vegetarian cuisine.” (Bart D. Ehrman, Lost Christianities: The Battles for Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew, pp. 102, 103)

“The consumption of animal flesh was unknown up until the great flood. But since the great flood, we have had animal flesh stuffed into our mouths. Jesus, the Christ, who appeared when the time was fulfilled, again joined the end to the beginning, so that we are now no longer allowed to eat animal flesh.” (St. Jerome, Latin name Eusebius Hieronymus, 345-420 A.D., Christian monk and scholar whose outstanding work was the production of the Vulgate, the principal and official Latin translation of the Bible)

Read for free online, The Lost Religion of Jesus: Simple Living and Nonviolence in Early Christianity, by Akers, Keith: 

Vegetarian Diet: Article: Evidence That Jesus and The Original Aramaic Christians Were Vegetarians: “James was a vegetarian….” (Robert Eisenman, James the Brother of Jesus) “James, the brother of the Lord, lived on seeds and plants and touched neither meat nor wine.” (Epistulae ad Faustum XXII, 3) “The Apostle Matthew partook of seeds, and nuts, hard-shelled fruits, and vegetables, without flesh.” (Clement of Alexandria, The Instructor, Book 2, Chapter 1) Peter said, “I live on olives and bread, to which I rarely only add vegetables.” (Clementine Homilies 12,6; also see, Recognitions 7,6) @ Medium: https://medium.com/sant-mat-meditation-and-spirituality/b8784ac42506

The Dietary Divide: Vegetarianism as a Wedge Issue in First-Century Christianity, by Christopher M. Sartain: 

God Never Desired Animal Sacrifice: Evidence from the Prophets and the Early Jesus Movement, by Christopher M Sartain:  https://www.academia.edu/144683591/God_Never_Desired_Animal_Sacrifice_Evidence_from_the_Prophets_and_the_Early_Jesus_Movement

The Bible and Vegetarianism:

Vegetarian Christian Saints,
by Holly H. Roberts: 


Judaism & Veganism: The Intersection of Two Paths: 


Veg Saying of Jesus from Islam: Christ said, “Flesh eating flesh? How offensive an act!” - The Muslim Jesus: Sayings and Stories in Islamic Literature, by Tarif Khalidi

The saying above reminds me of The Gospel of Thomas, Saying 112: Soul should be independent of flesh: Jesus said, “Woe to the flesh that depends upon a soul. Woe to the soul that depends upon flesh.” (The Gnostic Scriptures, Bentley Layton, David Brakke)

The Vegan Muslim Initiative: 


Vegan Bahai Faith: 



“The steam of meat meals darkens the spirit. One can hardly have virtue if one enjoys meat meals and feasts. In the earthly paradise [Eden], no one sacrificed animals, and no one ate meat.” (Saint Basil the Great)


The Gnostics Were Vegetarians

The vegetarian Prayer of Thanksgiving is part of the Hermetic scriptures of Egypt and is also part of the Nag Hammadi Library, the Gnostic Gospels. At the end of the prayer the final verse reads: “When they had said these things in the prayer, they embraced each other and they went to eat their holy food, which has no blood in it.”*

* “Vegetarian food” — footnote from the Marvin Meyer’s translation of this in, “The Nag Hammadi Scriptures”.

* A vegetarian meal. This passage is also found in the Epilogue of Asclepius, in “HERMETICA,” translated by Sir Walter Scott: “Having prayed thus, let us betake ourselves to a meal unpolluted by flesh [animalia] of living things.”

* The G.R.S. Mead translation of the same passage: “With this desire we now betake us to our pure and fleshless meal.”

The Vegetarian Prayer of Thanksgiving from the Gnostic Nag Hammadi Library: 


Mandaean Gnostic Vegetarian Passages: 
"Before him they do not offer a sacrifice, do not eat meat..." (Ginza Rabba)

"And they do not slaughter (sacrifice) before Him, nor do they eat any flesh-meat..." (another translation from the Ginza Rabba)

 "Do not eat animals. Don't eat a dead one, not a standing one, not a falling one, not a pregnant one, not one that has ambushed a wild animal. Eat the flesh of the animals that come forth from the fruits of the water- have been called '). The portion of the light shall be given to the light, the portion the darkness of the darkness." (Ginza Rabba)


"The eating of meat extinguishes the seed of great compassion." (Buddha, The Mahaparinirvana Sutra )

“If a man can control his body and mind and thereby refrains from eating animal flesh and wearing animal products, I say he will really be liberated.” — The Buddha, Surangama Sutra 

"Veganism is simply letting compassion guide our choice of food. As such, it is a basic Buddhist practice that ought to be expected of everyone who takes refuge vows." (Norm Phelps, The Great Compassion: Buddhism & Animal Rights)

“I fully endorse veganism as the most humane and compassionate diet that enhances our spiritual life. It is also the best diet for caring for the environment.” (Dr. Jagessar Das, President of the Kabir Association of Canada: http://www.kabir.ca )

Very nice comprehensive collection of vegan links and vegan recipes: https://konikoffdental.com/healthy-vegan-recipes-for-the-family

RUMI the Sufi Poet Was Vegan: 


Getting Back to Eden: “And God said, ‘Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food.’” (Hebrew Bible, Genesis 1:29, New International Version)

Vegetarian Diet and Sant Mat: The Spiritual and Karmic Aspects of the Vegetarian Diet, from letters of Kirpal Singh and Sawan Singh (Published By Ruhani Satsang USA) — PDF File: http://www.ruhanisatsangusa.org/pdf/VegetarianDiet-2010.pdf

Vegetarian Philosophy: Why I Don't Eat Faces — A Neuro-ethical Argument for Veganism, by David C. Lane —Book: http://books.google.com/books?id=knbLv3ADzDwC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

Why I Don’t Eat Faces: A Neuroethical Argument for Veganism — the Video: http://Youtu.be/9U_D89kYdA0

Interfaith Vegan Alliance:


Vegetarianism in Early Christianity: https://ivu.org/history/christian/christ_veg.html

Vegetarian Diet: Article: Evidence That Jesus and The Original Aramaic Christians Were Vegetarians: "James was a vegetarian...." (Robert Eisenman, James the Brother of Jesus) “James, the brother of the Lord, lived on seeds and plants and touched neither meat nor wine.” (Epistulae ad Faustum XXII, 3) “John never ate meat.” (Church historian Hegesipp according to Eusebius, History of the Church II 2:3) "The Apostle Matthew partook of seeds, and nuts, hard-shelled fruits, and vegetables, without flesh.” (Clement of Alexandria, The Instructor, Book 2, Chapter 1) Peter said, “I live on olives and bread, to which I rarely only add vegetables.” (Clementine Homilies 12,6; also see, Recognitions 7,6): https://medium.com/sant-mat-meditation-and-spirituality/b8784ac42506

Vegetarian Diet: Article: Uncovering A Vegetarian Jesus at the Beginning of Christianity: "Now beware in yourselves that your hearts do not become heavy with the eating of flesh and with the intoxication of wine and with the anxiety of the world, and that day come up upon you suddenly; for as a snare it will come upon all them that dwell on the surface of the earth." (Jesus, Luke 21:34, from a Syriac-Aramaic manuscript of the New Testament): https://medium.com/sant-mat-meditation-and-spirituality/9279741be7c4




Abu al-ʿAlaʾ al-Maʿarri (973–1057) Vegan, Philosopher, Born in Syria:

“Do not unjustly eat fish the water has given up,
And do not desire as food the flesh of slaughtered animals,
Or the white milk of mothers who intended its pure draught
for their young, not noble ladies.
And do not grieve the unsuspecting birds by taking eggs;
for injustice is the worst of crimes.
And spare the honey which the bees get industriously
from the flowers of fragrant plants;
For they did not store it that it might belong to others,
Nor did they gather it for bounty and gifts.
I washed my hands of all this; and wish that I
Perceived my way before my hair went gray!”



PODCAST: Vegetarian Sayings of Jesus: 

PODCAST: The Vegetarian Apostles and Scriptures of the Original Jesus Movement...& Prayers for a Vegan World:


PODCAST: Loaves Without The Fishes in Early Christian Writings:

PODCAST: The Karmic Law of the Vegetarian Diet by Hazur Baba Sawan Singh... Simran Practice... and Sach Khand: 

PODCAST: The Ebionites Recognized Those in India Who Worship the One God, are Vegetarians, and Follow Ahimsa: 

PODCAST: The Vegetarianism of Guru Nanak and the Sikh Scriptures: 

PODCAST: Vegetarian Sayings of Jesus, Rumi, Rabia & Bawa Muhaiyaddeen in Sufi Islamic Sources: 

PODCAST: World's Oldest Passages Referring to Being VEGAN:



Some Early Church “Heresy Hunters” used to require meat-eating on Sundays as a way to discover who the vegetarian Gnostics were in their midst! Since Gnostics were generally vegetarians, anyone refusing to partake of fleshly meals would be suspected of heresy:

“While the initial cause for Gnostic vegetarianism has been unknown in the past, many classical Christian authors have documented the Gnostic’s widespread practice of vegetarianism. In a 4th Century Christian document it attests that ‘Heretical Gnostic Christians were still so common, and there were so many Gnostic Heretics among the clergy and monks in Egypt that in the region of Theodosius Egypt, the Patriarch Timothy made eating meat compulsory on Sundays, as a way to flush out the vegetarian Gnostics*.’” — Luke Meyers, “Gnostic Visions”: https://books.google.com/books?id=wJ6cZ6RQjuUC&pg=PT197&lpg=PT197&dq=gnostic%20vegetarians&source=bl&ots=fZnsxdHLxC&sig=MhMNuziOWvPQE3VU0tY23aQT9hM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEcQ6AEwB2oVChMI76_U0Pe8yAIVyTg-Ch0bpApS#v=onepage&q=gnostic%20vegetarians&f=false



The Research of Keith Akers on the Hebrew Christians, the Original Jesus Movement: 
https://www.compassionatespirit.com/wpblog

One of the Greatest Books Ever Researching the Vegetarianism of the Jesus Movement, Authored By Keith Akers, "Disciples": 

And by Keith Akers..."The Lost Religion of Jesus": 

Evidence That Jesus and The Original Aramaic Christians Were
Vegetarians, By James Bean:  


Early Christian Vegetarian Communities: 




Also see: Sayings of Jesus (Yeshua), Ebionite (Nasoraean, Jewish or Hebrew Christian) Scriptures and Vegetarian Gospels -- Sant Mat Radhasoami Books, The E Library: Ebionite/Hebrew Christianity Section:



Vegan, Vegetarian Diet and Buddhism — A Huge Treasure-Trove of Buddhist Quotes, Ancient and Contemporary: https://web.archive.org/web/20220314075417/http://www.PurifyMind.com/SB32.htm


The Most Ancient Pro-Vegan Scripture in the World, The Surangama Sutra of Buddhism: 


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and @:


Vegan Diet: Vegans Are Cool, by Kathy Divine: e-book/PDF: http://spiritualawakeningradio.com/Vegans_Are_Cool_ebook.pdf


Dr. Will Tuttle, The World Peace Diet (Vegan) — Lecture @ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PkQrJZYZN4

Vegan Diet: NutritionFacts.org: http://www.NutritionFacts.org

Vegan Diet: NutritionFacts.org @ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/NutritionFactsOrg

Vegan Diet: T. Colin Campbell Interview “The China Study” at Hippocrates Health Institute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7rshjAZuzg&ab_channel=LivingFoodFilms

Vegan Diet: Youtube: The China Study — Lecture by T. Colin Campbell, Ph.D., Professor Emeritus of Nutritional Biochemistry at Cornell University, describes The China Study, the most comprehensive study on health and nutrition ever conducted. He discusses the importance of a plant-based diet in the prevention of diseases such as cancer. Presented to the Vegetarian Society of Hawaii in Honolulu, Hawaii: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOEeTJY5zCM









Vegan Jain Publication, Jainism: The Book of Compassion — Reverence For All Life (Vegan Jain Publication): http://spiritualawakeningradio.com/BookOfCompassion.pdf

Vegan Jain Publication, Jainism: Article: “My Visit to a Dairy Farm” has helped many vegetarians transition to a cruelty-free vegan diet: 
https://sites.fas.harvard.edu/~pluralsm/affiliates/jainism/ahimsa/dairy.htm

Vegan Jain Publication, Jainism: Reducing Our Himsa (Violence) Footprints: http://VeganJains.com

The following is from the Yoga Shastra, a scripture of Jainism: “Non-injury to all living beings is the only religion…this is the quintessence of wisdom; not to kill anything. all breathing, existing, living sentient creatures should not be slain, nor treated with violence, nor abused, nor tormented, nor driven away. this is the pure unchangeable law. Therefore, cease to injure living things. all living things love their life, desire pleasure and do not like pain; they dislike any injury to themselves; everybody is desirous of life and to every being, his life is very dear.”



Sikh And You Will Find: The Vegetarian Diet, Sikh Gurus and Scriptures, A Collection of Passages — Some have suggested that the Sikh Scriptures are not very clear on vegetarianism, the need to strictly adhere to a vegetarian diet for spiritual and ethical reasons. Not so. Let’s have a look. There are numerous vegetarian passages preserved in the Sikh Scriptures (Adi Granth, Shri Guru Granth Sahib) and related Sikh texts — quotes from Guru Nanak, Kabir, Guru Arjan Dev, Guru Gobind Singh and others. I’ve also included quotes from Bhai Gurdaas Ji and a Persian historian and scholar of comparative religion who wrote about Guru Nanak and the early Sikhs — how the original disciples were all vegetarians: https://medium.com/sant-mat-meditation-and-spirituality/f66bab1f8f8d

Vegetarian Diet and the Sikh Gurus: “The merit of pilgrimages to the sixty-eight holy places, and that of other virtues besides, do not equal having compassion for other living beings.” (Sri Guru Granth Sahib, pg 136) “Do not cause pain to any creature, Go back to your Home with honour.” (Sri Guru Granth Sahib, pg 322) “Keep your heart content and cherish compassion for all beings; this way alone can your holy vow be fulfilled” (Sri Guru Granth Sahib, pg 299) Nanak abstained from animal food and enjoined against cruelty to animals: “Having prohibited his disciples to drink wine and eat pork, he (Nanak) himself abstained from eating flesh and ordered not to hurt any living being.” (Mohsin Fani, DABISTAN-E-MAZAHIB) “Countless are the cutthroats who trade in violence. Countless are sinners who keep on sinning. Countless are liars, wandering lost in their lies. Countless are the impious who live on unwholesome food.” (Guru Nanak, Jap Ji, Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 4) “You kill living beings, and call it a righteous action. Tell me, brother, what would you call an unrighteous action? You call yourself the excellent sage; then whom would you call a butcher?” (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 1103). “Kabeer says, the dinner of beans and rice is excellent when flavored with salt. Who would cut throats to have meat with his bread?” (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 1374) “Kabeer: for those who consume marijuana, fish and wine, no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and rituals they follow, they will all be consigned to hell”. (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 1377). “Do not say that the Vedas, the Bible and the Koran are false. Those who do not contemplate them are false. You say that the One Lord is in all, so why do you kill chickens?” (Kabir, Guru Granth Sahib, 1350) “Telling lies, they eat dead bodies. And yet, they go out to teach others. They are deceived, and they deceive their companions. O Nanak, such are the leaders of men.(Shri Guru Granth, 139)

“One who does not steal, commit adultery, slander anyone, gamble, eat meat or drink wine will be liberated in this very life (i.e. Jeewan Mukt)”. (Guru Gobind Singh, 10th Sikh Guru, Sudharam Marag Granth — Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji’s “Updesh” to Bhai Daya Singh ji which is mentioned in “Sudharam Marag Granth”, and also found written in some old handwritten volumes of Sri Guru Granth Sahib): http://www.info-sikh.com/PageM1.html “His Disciples, Soaked in The Bliss of Nam, gave up opium, hashish, poppy, liquor and various other intoxicants. They would not eat meat. They would not steal. They foreswore adultery and deception. They Practised Saintliness.” (Sri Guru Panth Parkash): http://namdhari.faithweb.com/panthparkash.htm

Vegetarian Diet and the Sikh Gurus: “Living by neglect and greed, the world eats dead carcasses. Like a goblin or a beast, they kill and eat the forbidden carcasses of meat. Control your urges, or else you will be thrown into the tortures of hell.” (Guru Arjan Dev, Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 723). Bhai Gurdaas Ji said: “They eat meat by cutting throats, what will their own condition be?” (Vaar 24, Pauree 17) “To take what rightfully belongs to another, is like a Muslim eating pork, or a Hindu eating beef. Our Guru, our Spiritual Guide, stands by us if we do not eat those carcasses. By mere talk, people do not earn Liberation. Salvation only comes from the practice of truth. By adding spices to forbidden foods, they are not made acceptable. O Nanak, from false talk, only falsehood is obtained.” (Guru Nanak Dev Ji, Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 141) “You kill living beings, and call it a righteous action. Tell me, brother, what would you call an unrighteous action? You call yourself the excellent sage; then whom would you call a butcher?” (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 1103). “You keep your fasts to please Allah, while you murder other beings for pleasure. You look after your own interests, and so not see the interests of others. What good is your word? O Qazi, the One Lord is within you, but you do not think or contemplation on Him. You do not care for others, you are mad about religion, this is why your life is wasting away.” (Kabir, Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 483): http://www.realsikhism.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1248309400&ucat=7

Also See: Cruelty and Food Sikh Discussion:

Also See: Even More Shri Guru Granth Vegetarian Passages — Adi Granth on Meat:

Baba Banda Singh Bahadur (1670–1716)

“On 3rd September 1708, Guru Gobind Singh Ji administered the vows and Amrit (blessed necter) to Madho Das, a Hindu Sadhu or ascetic, and gave him a new name, Banda Singh. At the same time, he gave Banda Singh a Nagara (war drum), Nishan Sahib (banner) and five arrows from his own quiver as symbols of Authority. Banda Singh was also accompanied by five Sikhs to assist him to build up his forces so as to repel the tyranny of the Mughal Empire.” — http://sikhcoin.blogspot.com/2013/05/baba-banda-singh-bahadur-1670-1716-and.html

Hukamnama (edict or order) to the Sikhs of Jaunpur by Baba Banda Singh Bahadur on 12th December 1710. “Ek Ongkar Fateh Darshan. Sri sache sahib ji ka hokum hai sarbat Khalsa Jaunpur ka Guru rekhega, guru japna janam savraega, tusi sri akal purakh ji ka khalsa ho, panj hathear banh ke hukam dekhdiya darshan awna. Khalsae di rahet rahena, bhang, tumakoo, hafeem, posthe, dharoo, amal koyee na hi khana, mas masheli paeaj na hi khana, chori jari nahi karni, asa satjug vertaeya hae aap vech pyar karna, mera hukam hae jo khalsae di rahet rahega tesdi Guru bahori kareaga. Methi Poh 12 samvat pahela satrathes.”

English Translation of the Hukamnama Shown Above

“Ek Ongkar Fateh Darshan. By the order of the true king, all the Khalsa of Jaunpur will be protected by Guru ji, Pray to the Guru for he will improve your life. You are God’s Khalsa, wear the five weapons and on being ordered, present yourself. You must obey the principals of the Khalsa. You are not to consume hemp, tobacco, opium, poppy seeds or alcoholic drinks. You are not to eat meat, fish and onions. You must not steal. We usher in a new era, Satjug — the Age of Truth. Love one another. This is my order, those who should live according to the principals of the Khalsa will be protected by God. Dated 12 Poh samvat pahela 1 (= 12 December 1710)” — http://sikhcoin.blogspot.com/2013/05/baba-banda-singh-bahadur-1670-1716-and.html






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